Comments on: Are We All Just Whiners? http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/2010/03/30/are-we-just-all-whiners/ Thu, 12 Jan 2012 00:30:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: John Batdorff http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/2010/03/30/are-we-just-all-whiners/#comment-115 John Batdorff Tue, 06 Apr 2010 20:58:47 +0000 http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/?p=356#comment-115 Your last paragraph nails it....very nice read. Your last paragraph nails it….very nice read.

]]> By: Jeffrey K. Edwards http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/2010/03/30/are-we-just-all-whiners/#comment-83 Jeffrey K. Edwards Wed, 31 Mar 2010 06:46:48 +0000 http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/?p=356#comment-83 Competition is healthy, most of the time. It is not amateur vs professional to my eye. There are a growing number of nonpros now who shoot as good or better than pros often because they don't have the time or financial constraints = more artistic freedom. If the anyone is worried about the competition, then that better stimulate them to improve or perish. Isn't that what evolution is all about? Stop whining, work harder for a better product and succeed. Works for me every day. Jeff Competition is healthy, most of the time. It is not amateur vs professional to my eye. There are a growing number of nonpros now who shoot as good or better than pros often because they don’t have the time or financial constraints = more artistic freedom.

If the anyone is worried about the competition, then that better stimulate them to improve or perish. Isn’t that what evolution is all about?

Stop whining, work harder for a better product and succeed. Works for me every day.

Jeff

]]> By: Craig Ferguson (@cfimages) http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/2010/03/30/are-we-just-all-whiners/#comment-80 Craig Ferguson (@cfimages) Wed, 31 Mar 2010 03:51:49 +0000 http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/?p=356#comment-80 I think the rise of the amateur so to speak is great. All it serves to do is encourage everyone to become more creative and create more compelling work, which is surely the goal of an artist in any field. Get creative, stand out, reap rewards. Or am I just an optimist? :) I think the rise of the amateur so to speak is great. All it serves to do is encourage everyone to become more creative and create more compelling work, which is surely the goal of an artist in any field. Get creative, stand out, reap rewards. Or am I just an optimist? :)

]]> By: Trudy http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/2010/03/30/are-we-just-all-whiners/#comment-78 Trudy Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:08:59 +0000 http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/?p=356#comment-78 Great article. You're right. I also found Marcus' comment to be really interesting. Great article. You’re right. I also found Marcus’ comment to be really interesting.

]]> By: Laura Bergerol http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/2010/03/30/are-we-just-all-whiners/#comment-77 Laura Bergerol Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:03:41 +0000 http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/?p=356#comment-77 Great post, Jeffrey! I think the NYT article is skewed...sort of glass is way less than full! Yes, it can be tough out there, but those that are good at their craft and who persist, no matter the competition, will win out! Talent does matter...whining not so much! Great post, Jeffrey! I think the NYT article is skewed…sort of glass is way less than full! Yes, it can be tough out there, but those that are good at their craft and who persist, no matter the competition, will win out! Talent does matter…whining not so much!

]]> By: Donald E Giannatti http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/2010/03/30/are-we-just-all-whiners/#comment-76 Donald E Giannatti Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:51:56 +0000 http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/?p=356#comment-76 Well stated. The nyt beclowns itself on a nearly daily basis. I found this article to be full of holes, omissions and errors (stock is not the same as microcrapstock. It just isn't). Add to that the insult of having a guy who sells images for $3 tell us about how that is a good business model is beyond laughable. The nyt is very invested in driving content pricing down, so they can take advantage (yeah... the nyt has been known to do that, ya know) so color me unimpressed and totally annoyed with that article. Are there challenges? Yes. Should we all quit ant let the kittyshootersfromflickr shoot it all? No... we should... wait... uh, yeah... on second thought, it would eliminate a lot of my competition if they quit... hmmm... Yeah... the nyt is right. All is lost. Send your cameras (especially that lovely D700) to me for disposal. yeah... that's the ticket. Well stated.

The nyt beclowns itself on a nearly daily basis. I found this article to be full of holes, omissions and errors (stock is not the same as microcrapstock. It just isn’t). Add to that the insult of having a guy who sells images for $3 tell us about how that is a good business model is beyond laughable.

The nyt is very invested in driving content pricing down, so they can take advantage (yeah… the nyt has been known to do that, ya know) so color me unimpressed and totally annoyed with that article.

Are there challenges? Yes. Should we all quit ant let the kittyshootersfromflickr shoot it all? No… we should…

wait… uh, yeah… on second thought, it would eliminate a lot of my competition if they quit… hmmm…

Yeah… the nyt is right. All is lost. Send your cameras (especially that lovely D700) to me for disposal.

yeah… that’s the ticket.

]]> By: Crystal B http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/2010/03/30/are-we-just-all-whiners/#comment-74 Crystal B Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:53:57 +0000 http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/?p=356#comment-74 The digital revolution in photography has just changed the way the game is played, and I call it a game simply because that's sort of how it is. It has made it much more easy for anyone who had an itch to get a decent camera, and follow a dream that was once not so accessible. It has, however, also made it for those who were living that dream, a lot more challenging to stay at the top of the game. The question is, are they going to quit whining about it, and show the world why they are at the top, or let the dreamers continue to chase them, and catch up? @Marcus, my better half is a published author, this same debate of whining that is going around in the photography world, is going around in the writers realm as well, they are having it harder I think. Blogs are free, and anyone with a blog is a writer now, getting book deals, tours, trips to Oprah, etc. Cameras however good, still cost money. It's a tough world out there. We can run with it, or complain about it. It's all a choice we make individually. The digital revolution in photography has just changed the way the game is played, and I call it a game simply because that’s sort of how it is. It has made it much more easy for anyone who had an itch to get a decent camera, and follow a dream that was once not so accessible. It has, however, also made it for those who were living that dream, a lot more challenging to stay at the top of the game.

The question is, are they going to quit whining about it, and show the world why they are at the top, or let the dreamers continue to chase them, and catch up?

@Marcus, my better half is a published author, this same debate of whining that is going around in the photography world, is going around in the writers realm as well, they are having it harder I think. Blogs are free, and anyone with a blog is a writer now, getting book deals, tours, trips to Oprah, etc. Cameras however good, still cost money.

It’s a tough world out there. We can run with it, or complain about it. It’s all a choice we make individually.

]]> By: Patrick Smith http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/2010/03/30/are-we-just-all-whiners/#comment-73 Patrick Smith Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:56:59 +0000 http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/?p=356#comment-73 Technology advances steadily along regardless of who is affected. I've seen lots of whining everywhere but technology and the marketplace of supply and demand do not care about feelings and opinions. I'd just as soon get into traditional stock photography today as get into the typewriter sales industry 30 years ago! Patrick Technology advances steadily along regardless of who is affected. I’ve seen lots of whining everywhere but technology and the marketplace of supply and demand do not care about feelings and opinions. I’d just as soon get into traditional stock photography today as get into the typewriter sales industry 30 years ago!

Patrick

]]> By: Sean Phillips http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/2010/03/30/are-we-just-all-whiners/#comment-72 Sean Phillips Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:02:10 +0000 http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/?p=356#comment-72 I think there has always been a need for the "good" photographers to stand out from the crowd and to prove that they are worth more than the amateurs. This may be more true today than ever before, but it's certainly not new. If you want to be paid more, you better show that you're worth it. I think there has always been a need for the “good” photographers to stand out from the crowd and to prove that they are worth more than the amateurs. This may be more true today than ever before, but it’s certainly not new. If you want to be paid more, you better show that you’re worth it.

]]> By: marcus http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/2010/03/30/are-we-just-all-whiners/#comment-71 marcus Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:46:40 +0000 http://www.jeffreychapman.com/culturalphotographer/?p=356#comment-71 I find it ironic how photographers wail about amateurs killing the industry, on their blogs, which they write for free, and are directly responsible for the decline in the print industry. I find it ironic how photographers wail about amateurs killing the industry, on their blogs, which they write for free, and are directly responsible for the decline in the print industry.

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